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Hott Bill · Feb 28, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16

I am stuck with a single core processor atm, and am looking to upgrade to a dual core. I currently have 2 sticks of 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Ram, and a GeForce 7100 256 Graphic Card.

This is my current processor:
http://www.consumerdepot.com/product...referer=google
This is my current motherboard:
http://www.skyline-eng.com/index.cfm...TOKEN=89857256

Is the installation as easy as, Take out the old CPU, and put in the new CPU? Will a new processor require new ram to match the processor?

~Thanks.

afya · Feb 28, 2008, 01:31 AM // 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hott Bill

I am stuck with a single core processor atm, and am looking to upgrade to a dual core. I currently have 2 sticks of 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Ram, and a GeForce 7100 256 Graphic Card.

This is my current processor:
http://www.monkeycircuit.com/Itemdes...MD-6432002.htm
This is my current motherboard:
http://www.skyline-eng.com/index.cfm...TOKEN=89857256

Is the installation as easy as, Take out the old CPU, and put in the new CPU?

~Thanks.

Yes, it's as easy as what you described. HOWEVER, you have to check what CPU your motherboard supports. In you case, I dunno whether it support dual core processor or not. You also have to make sure you buy a CPU with correct socket. Yours is a 939, make sure you won't buy a wrong one.

Hott Bill · Feb 28, 2008, 01:33 AM // 01:33

So something like this would be compatible?
http://www.skyline-eng.com/index.cfm...duct_ID=61 75

Biostem · Feb 28, 2008, 01:49 AM // 01:49

Also, and this is a big deal, once you get a compatible motherboard & CPU, make sure you have a decent heat sink, and that you apply the proper amount of thermal compound correctly. Many CPUs come w/ a heat sink already, and the better ones have the thermal grease already applied. You want to make sure you attach the heat sink w/o leaving fingerprints or air pockets in the thermal grease, too.

quicksilv3r · Feb 28, 2008, 01:51 AM // 01:51

yep it well work

Chthon · Feb 28, 2008, 01:52 AM // 01:52

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Originally Posted by Hott Bill

Is the installation as easy as, Take out the old CPU, and put in the new CPU?

Almost. Removing the heatsink can prove very easy or very annoying depending upon which direction it mounts. Use the zero-insertion-force lever to pop the old processor. Put the new one lightly in place and use the zero-insertion-force lever to secure it. Once you have the new processor in place, you MUST apply fresh thermal goop before replacing the heat sink or you will fry the processor pretty much instantly when you power it up. Useful link.

Lurid · Feb 28, 2008, 01:55 AM // 01:55

Just so you know, any performance increase you see will almost certainly be in your head. As far as gaming is concerned you would be considerably better off buying a new GPU (even if that requires saving)

Admael · Feb 28, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

Socket 939 *drools*, if you're buying that exact CPU (link), it looks like it comes with a new heatsink and fan.

Hott Bill · Feb 28, 2008, 02:11 AM // 02:11

Ok, thermal goop and a new heatsink, got it. So what about ram, I currently have 3200, but the new processor is 3800, does the ram have to be compatible with the motherboard or the processor?

eggrolls · Feb 28, 2008, 02:24 AM // 02:24

how are you upgrading to a dual core with that motherboard -_-

"Supports 64-bit AMD® Athlon64/64FX processors (Socket 939)"

Dual core is Athlon 64 X2, not simply 64 or FX.

Single core 3800+ do exist, and I believe that's what it meant: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103571

IMO, upgrading the CPU is wasting money. Video card should come first.

Admael · Feb 28, 2008, 02:34 AM // 02:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by eggrolls

how are you upgrading to a dual core with that motherboard -_-

"Supports 64-bit AMD® Athlon64/64FX processors (Socket 939)"

Dual core is Athlon 64 X2, not simply 64 or FX.

Single core 3800+ do exist, and I believe that's what it meant: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103571

IMO, upgrading the CPU is wasting money. Video card should come first.

Get the BIOS update from MSI and you should be fine.

voldermord · Feb 28, 2008, 10:11 AM // 10:11

suggestion, buy a new mother board, ram and cpu.

first off, ur mobo does not support X2. Even if it does, i guarantee your system will not boot due to ram incompatibility. U need DDR2 for the memory controller of athlon X2. I had ram problems upgrading from my Am2 sempron to Am2 AthlonX2 even.

IMO, save a little bit more, get a Am2 board, can get @ $70+, AM2 chip, 2ghz dual core is at less than 100, and 2x 1gb sticks of ram @ less than $50. Than again, old coms and new coms are a chore..u need to check if ur current graphics card is compatible wif the new one, IE, AGP/PCIeX..
any new processor will come with heatsink and preapplied thermal pad. Just install properly once and it will stick. Dont take it back out or u gotta get 3rd party thermal paste.

Tachyon · Feb 28, 2008, 05:05 PM // 17:05

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Originally Posted by voldermord

U need DDR2 for the memory controller of athlon X2. I had ram problems upgrading from my Am2 sempron to Am2 AthlonX2 even.

Rubbish! One of my current systems is a (Socket 939) Athlon64 X2 4200+ 'Toledo' running on an ASUS A8N-SLi deluxe with 2GB of Mushkin PC3200, and that happens to be one hell of a stable system. So where you're getitng this "You need DDR2 to run a X2" is beyond me.

Pasha the Mighty · Feb 28, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11

If you don't know what you're doing, look up one of the countless guides on the internet. One tip that I'll give as to not fry your mobo or anything else in your computer is to get an ESD (electrostatic discharge) wristband, which you connect to the grounding of one of your electric ports(the thing you plug a plug into, dunno what you call it, im dutch) MIND YOU, NOT THE HOLES THE ELECTRICITY COMES OUT OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. (just in case, you know). That way, if you build up any static electricity by like rubbing your sweater against anything, you wont break anything, it'll travel via the wristband into the ground.

Hott Bill · Feb 28, 2008, 10:52 PM // 22:52

I have a wristguard of course

voldermord · Feb 29, 2008, 06:21 AM // 06:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azagoth

Rubbish! One of my current systems is a (Socket 939) Athlon64 X2 4200+ 'Toledo' running on an ASUS A8N-SLi deluxe with 2GB of Mushkin PC3200, and that happens to be one hell of a stable system. So where you're getitng this "You need DDR2 to run a X2" is beyond me.

well assuming yours is diff..my "brisbane" wouldnt boot till i changed the memory.

it all depends on the mobo memory controller, chipset etc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hott Bill

I have a wristguard of course

i usually just touch the casing while the power plug is connected and mains on to ground myself. never have problems wif the countless sytems ive opened and assembled..

lordpwn · Feb 29, 2008, 06:52 AM // 06:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by voldermord

well assuming yours is diff..my "brisbane" wouldnt boot till i changed the memory.

it all depends on the mobo memory controller, chipset etc

On Athlon 64's the memory controller is integrated into the CPU, not the motherboard.

As far as I know the AM2 socket ones support DDR2, while the Socket 939 Athlon 64's support DDR. There's Athlon 64 X2 models for both sockets; the "Manchester" and "Toledo" X2's fit in s939 and thus support DDR, while the "Brisbane" and "Windsor" series were made for AM2 and only support DDR2 memory.

Tutis Evito · Feb 29, 2008, 09:47 AM // 09:47

try and get a athlon 64 x2 4400 or 4800 ( for socket 939) both hard to find. if not then x2 4200 is a good choice, the x2 3800 is good for OC potentaial

voldermord · Feb 29, 2008, 10:07 AM // 10:07

thk s for the info lordpwn.

agreed as above, but imo, chg mobo and get am2..i mean,..am2+ is already out :O

besides, i dont think he should be overclocking -.-" a 4000 2.1ghz X2 is more than enough for GW. Fps though, depends on the GPU..

Dono · Feb 29, 2008, 10:23 AM // 10:23

I would definately be wary about trying to put a dual core cpu in motherboard that originally came with a single core. I know that my mother board can not support dual core. If you download Belarc Advisor (google it) that may help you.